We are not meant to live life like salmon, swimming against the current

Good afternoon, my friends!

It’s been 8 months since my last post. Time truly does seem to have a set of wings. I’ve been working on my book proposal and it’s been quite a process so thank you for not giving up on me.

Kelly Murphy, whom I met in 2012 at the Passion Test Certification in SC, is one of the most inspiring women I’ve ever had the privilege of knowing. She now hosts a podcast on Americaoutloud.com titled High Heels, High Hopes to inspire and encourage people to live fearless lives as she does.

Kelly contacted me a couple of weeks ago and gave me the opportunity to be interviewed for her podcast. Through her questions and guidance, I had the time and space to share what I did to bring some light into the darkest period of my life after my brother died, and how I approach life as a result. She titled the podcast after something I say often, “We are not meant to live life like salmon, swimming against the current”

Thank you, Kelly, for the opportunity!

I thought I’d share the link here for any of you who may be interested in listening since you have been on this journey with me, reading my intimate feelings as I moved through the grieving process. Your comments, love and support helped me to “survive” a desperate time in my life. I am deeply grateful to each one of you.


Note: it’s close to an hour long, so if you do listen, do it while cooking, driving, etc. And whether your listen or not, please leave a comment on a time in your life when you were afraid to do something, but you did it anyway!

With gratitude,



13 thoughts on “We are not meant to live life like salmon, swimming against the current

  1. Amazing.





    Love you, Susan Casey.

    –so proud of you, your journey, your gifts, your friendship, your words & your DEEP love for all humanity.

    PS. LOoooOOOoved Big Magic!

    —just listened before my walk. What a joy!!! xxxxxxx

    1. Kim,
      Thank you for taking the time to listen. The feeling is mutual. Perhaps it was Kay and Rocky who connected us…or God:-) I am so grateful to have you in my life and Kay’s story in my book. The work you are doing is so powerful and important. Your courage and bravery in sharing Kay’s story through your stunning prose is not only changing lives, but saving them. You are an ongoing inspiration to me and thousands of others. Thank you for living a beautiful, fearless, courageous life!! I LOVE you!

  2. Great interview! Loved hearing your voice. Permission to talk about our losses is so important to healing. Glad to hear your book is coming along – can’t wait to read it!!!

    1. Thanks, Tasha for taking the time to listen!! As you know, your guidance, support, and leadership grew me in ways I will never be able to put into words. It was because of you I stayed at PSC for as long as I did. I will be eternally grateful for your support and the many ways you challenged me to use my voice. I miss you for a million reasons and LOVE you! You have much to offer this world. Thank you:-)

  3. LOVED this conversation and it was exactly what I needed to hear right now.
    My favorite takeaways:

    1. “We are not meant to live life like salmon, swimming against the current” “Your life will get seemingly worse when you’re intent on it appearing way you think it should be.”

    That is how I got stuck lately, I was the salmon trying to swim upstream.

    2. “There is beauty in the pain”
    I can stop trying to force myself to move past it and lean into it, there is a gift in it for me.

    3. “Take what you do seriously take yourself lightly. We are much more in tune with the voice of our soul when we are playful.”

    I have a tendency to take life too seriously. I yearn to get back to a sense of playfulness and FUN!

    I could relate to so much of what you both were saying, both about life and about the grieving process. I am grateful to you and Kelly for sharing this powerful conversation. LOVE you!

    1. Yvon,
      Thank you for taking the time to listen!! Ahhh, yes, lifelong lessons for us all. In your posts, Yvon, I think you always show up “beauty in the pain.’ With the enormous challenges you’ve faced in your life, you’ve done so with beauty, grace and courage. Keep writing, keep sharing, keep inspiring others to understand there is no mountain too insurmountable…you are living proof of this and I love you dearly!

  4. Things I feared to do but did anyway? So much, but a few come to mind. Most involve fear of spending too much energy and risking a painful decline in health. I feared I couldn’t take a six week course in NLP and did it anyway. I feared going to Tibet, my dream destination, because the altitude might take a toll on my health, and I went anyway.

    In a different way but still scary is to put my blog posts out there and sharing my deeply personal stories with the world.
    Scary. Scary. Scary. But so worth it!

    On a side note: I did get myself quite burned out by doing something I feared telling myself I didn’t want to give in to fear. It took me a while, but I learned that there is a difference between fear and CAUTION. This fear I felt was caution because I felt in my gut that it would serve me not to overextend myself. That is the type of fear I very much NEED to listen to.

    Loved the discussion. Love YOU! Big hug.

    1. Yvon,
      I love this fear vs caution…to take it a level deeper, I think it’s listening to the “soul” voice about timing and next steps to take in our life. “Feeling” it in your gut is not fear, but a deeper listening to the guidance of the soul who knows what we need and when we need it. I think it’s when we brush off the gut feeling and rationalize and make different decision (the ego) that gets us into trouble:-) I admire the way you’ve learned to listen and honor that voice. Again, just another example of your courage, your wisdom and how through your actions and words, gives others permission to the same. I love you my friend!

  5. The most beautiful aunthentic interview I have ever listened to. Ladies you both Rock and I love you so much. Kelly wow wow wow the way,she interviews. Sister Susan E Casey I can’t wait for the book, well done and thank you for being so open and authentic. ❤️🌹❤️
    We have been each other’s rock the past few three years from the moment I met, we both have discovered the strength within and taken risks, and DRASTIC shifts that have strengthened our ability to listen and clearly hear our soul whispers.
    You are a true inspiration Susan, I see greatness and many more opportunities for you to help,those in grief open up to allowing their light shine even brighter beyond their grief.

    1. Oh Stem! You are a walking, talking, living example of living a fearless life! You’ve inspired thousands of people over the course of your life through direct practice, coaching, and your DrStem show. As Kelly said, we were meant to meet at the Passion Test Certification. It truly was a GOD WINK! Seems I’ve known you a lifetime. Thanks for being there for me, too, sister. I will never forget the light you brought into the room during my brother’s memorial. It’s was very special and I will be forever thankful. You have brought much joy and laughter into my life and helped through a horrific time just by listening, supporting and encouraging me. Forever sisters and friends. I love you! You are a ROCK STAR!

      1. You made me cry booo hoooo ahhhhh love you sis. I refuse to swim against the current, my intuition and God’s whispers💃🏿😄😄😄😄
        Life Rocks when you say YES….and go with the flow pain hurt discouragement and all …they are a part of this life journey and there comes a time where we embrace all and limb on.

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